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December 18, 2007 14:43 by Pigskin_Stokes
As Bowl Season approaches hopefully we will have a Bowl Podcast Show up and going. You can email us at Mail@pigskinfootballguys.com with anything you want to know or want us to talk about. We will post the PODCAST here on our blog. We are working kinks out of the forums, but we also are going to need moderators. We will hand select some of you as you post on the forums. Please post as often and consistently as you can. As the season comes to a close recruiting and drafting will soon arise. If you hear something in your area about recruits or draft picks. Please post! The longest part of the year is going to be off-season. You guys have made this site what it is. We had a record day with 4,700 hits within the first month of existence. That is pretty unheard of for a blog sites. So we thank you for linking us up on forums, telling a friend or emailing articles. Please continue to spread the word!

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So What is the deal with this Petrino Guy?

December 14, 2007 11:32 by Pigskin_Webb

Since Bobby Petrino’s hire this week, I’ve been trying to formulate an opinion about what I thought of the hire and the coach.  Here is what I have come up with:  As far as character issues, Bobby Petrino is Houston Nutt.  Petrino has lied time after time after time in regards to whether he is looking at going to another program, whether he is staying with a program, whether he has talked to different university officials. Etc. But my question is who hasn’t in today’s college football landscape?  Les Miles told Oklahoma State fans that he wasn’t looking at going to another program and that he was happy in Stillwater.  Then he jumps ship to LSU.  But who could blame him?  LSU had and has stockpiles of talent and play in the best conference.  Of course everyone is familiar with the Nick Saban controversy.  This has become commonplace among the coaching fraternity.  Coaches will tell fans, boosters, players, and recruits what they want to hear at that time, knowing in the back of this mind that he either wants that big time job or that he wants to make the jump to the NFL or that he has been in contact with other AD’s or GM’s.  Is it right?  Not necessarily, but that is the type of world we live in now in the business, and it is a business, of college football.  But let’s go back to Petrino.  I think what he did to the Falcons was wrong and most objective football fan would tend to agree, except for the ignorant Arkansas fans who think that it was ok and justified.  I can also understand where Petrino was coming from.  Who wants to coach a team so disheveled and out of whack that it almost became a circus in the locker room?  Of course you had the Vick fiasco, then you had DeAngelo Hall almost fighting one of his own coaches on the sidelines, Alge Crumpler publicly criticizing Petrino and the coaching staff, and at the Monday night game against the Saints, guys like Roddy White and Chris Houston (former Arkansas player) paying homage to Vick with eye black with #7 on them or shirts that say “Free Mike Vick”.  Is this really necessary to deal with on an NFL team?  Petrino should have no doubt faced the players in person to tell them of his decision and tell them how he felt, and the players to have that same luxury of letting Petrino how the felt.  But Arkansas had an enormous sense of urgency.  They had been turned down 3 times, which we know of, and they had to get a coach in order to stay on top of recruiting.  At the same time, Petrino could have done what Charlie Weiss did when he took the job with Notre Dame while he was with the Patriots.  He recruited when he didn’t have to be with the team, but still fulfilled his commitment to the team and their playoff run.  This might not have even been an option, but just something to think about.  Petrino has a chance to change the perception most of the college football world has of him.  He can do this by fulfilling his contract, not looking for other job opportunities, before, during, or after the season, and being honest with recruits and fans.  Earlier I said his character was similar to Nutt’s, but that is where the similarities end.  Petrino turned Louisville into a national contender while he was there, leading them to a BCS bowl victory, which is something that Arkansas has never had.  He was 41-9 in 5 years.  He recruited top athletes in Michael Bush and Brian Brohm, among others. No one can argue with the type of coach Petrino is.  He is widely considered as an offensive genius that can generate balance.  See the two names mentioned above.  Balance is what Arkansas desperately needs.  With only 8 returning starters next year, his coaching skills will be put to the test early and often.  Let us hope for the best for Petrino, on and off the field.


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Arkansas Coach with No Extensions Attached?

December 11, 2007 20:23 by Pigskin_Stokes

"ESPN is reporting

"Bobby Petrino abruptly resigned his position as coach of the Atlanta Falcons on Tuesday, and multiple sources told ESPN he is negotiating an agreement to become the new coach at Arkansas. Petrino and his agent had been talking with the Falcons about his preference to return to the college ranks. The former Louisville coach was looking for an opportunity to break into the Southeastern Conference ranks, and Arkansas was a natural fit."
 
 So is this for real Petrino? As we reported many coaches have used Arkansas as leverage. If you're reading and you're a hog fan give us your thoughts. I for one as a hog fan would be pumped. Having lived in Arkansas for a period of time, I feel like there are a lot of idiots up in Arkansas. I had a buddy labeled me a realistic Hog Fan because I didn't buy into the hog hype every year. That being said Arkansas should have been a Contender this year. As a season ticket holder I witnessed the mediocrity that was Arkansas Football turn into the team that could have been. And if you are honest with yourself, Hog fans don't get to feel like that often. "Could have been teams" weren't apart of my upbringing. SEC contenders rarely came along. After Houston Nutt got to Arkansas I got to watch my team win and contend. We by no means were a Florida or USC but we were a winning more than we were losing. We were beating Texas and to a true Arkansas fan that meant a lot. I think Nutt did more for Arkansas Football then anyone other than the D-Mac. This illusion that Big Coaches would want to come to a McFadden-less team is not hard for to dismiss. But I do feel like we are at a pivotal point. We need a coach who can get the job done. Big Name, small name, it doesn't matter. Do we deserve, better I think so. And Petrino just might be it!


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Speed+ Talent+Good Coaching= SEC

December 11, 2007 10:23 by Pigskin_Stokes
I've played sports my whole life and the one thing people always say is this. "You can't practices against speed if you don't have it." And the Big 10 doesn't have the speed. (speed is only one part of the game) In high school, we were a bunch of white boys playing basketball on daddy's dime against far superior talent. We had some good players, but we were slow. Granted we had some guys who had some speed and those guys I mean maybe two. We had a few guys go play at D1 levels in football and two of them are playing pro-ball. But our basketball team was slow. So slow that coach put 6 defenders out on the court multiple times to simulate the amount of speed we would  be playing against. Now our football team wasn't the fastest but they won two state titles in 5yrs not bad for 2a school. And they weren't blazing any trails. Or burning a lot of people deep on sheer speed. They had great coach, great execution, and heart (bring the wood was their battle cry, so look out McFadden, they brought it a long time a go.) So my point is: You can still play a sport well with out speed. But why would you. It makes up for so many things!

The Big Ten is largely a smash mouth offense, hard nosed, at that. They do put up legitimate teams who play good football. The difference here is the type of game played. The Pac 10 is the only conference who can rival the SEC. The explosiveness of those two conferences towers over the Big 10. I agree with the theory "just cuz the best team is in your conference doesn't mean you are the best conference." But the SEC is the best conference.

I'll tell you why. They have the most talent. LA, FL, TX, and CA have the best high-school football programs in the nation.  You can double check my stats but I'm pretty sure LA the state puts more players in the pros per capita than any other state. TX has top recruits every year go to the SEC. UF get the cream of the crop in its own state. I know there are great players all over the country. But the football in La, TX, and FL  is just better. You won't find many programs that don't have players from one of those states. And the SEC get the best of them. USC is the only school that consistently steals TOP recruits from those states. But their success in the last 10 years was started by in state recruiting allowing; them improve. Therefore giving them a chance to regularly compete with the SEC in the fore mentioned states. The SEC is the faster conference, they bring in more talent, and they are the better conference. 

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This Weeks Goat of the Week Nominees

December 5, 2007 17:07 by Pigskin_Webb

1. Baltimore Ravens – For the second straight week, a team has had the opportunity to beat the Patriots, and both times, mistakes have ended up costing them that chance.  Last week, it was A.J. Feely’s late interception that put the nail in the coffin.  This week, when looking at the Ravens, can you really put your finger on just one thing?  Let’s start with the first half interception made my Ed Reed.  An exceptional return man, Reed looked like he was going to set his team up to make a field goal, possibly even a touchdown before half to extend their lead.  However, his lack of ball security cost them a turnover when Kevin Faulk tackled and stripped Reed preventing them from scoring.  Next, and this is when the fun starts, Kyle Boller throws an interception into the middle of 4 Patriot defenders, when there was absolutely 0 Raven receivers in the vicinity.  As a matter of fact, you could barely see a receiver on the replay.  This again cost the Ravens precious points.  The final drive:  Patriots line up for a 4th and 1 and Brady is seemingly stuffed at the line, HOWEVER, a timeout is called by the defensive coordinator, preventing the turnover on downs.  FYI, only head coaches are supposed to be able to call the timeouts from the sidelines.  Next, on another 4th and short, Heath Evans takes the ball and gets stuffed, but a false start by the Patriots pushes them back 5 to set up Tom Brady’s scramble for a first down.  On the next 4th down, a hold by the Ravens secondary gave the Patriots an automatic first down and all they needed to score the go ahead touchdown.  By the way, it was legitimate hold call.  Lastly, the actions of Bart Scott were terrible.  I understand the emotion of the game was at an all time high, but throwing the official’s flag into the stands was ridiculous.  And claiming that the officials make those calls because the NFL wants the Patriots undefeated is absurd.  If your team makes smart decisions early in the game, then the game wouldn’t have come down to the last drive.  I’ll be interested to see what type of fine Scott gets for his actions and his words.    

2. University of Arkansas – Since Houston Nutt resigned as Arkansas’s head coach and took the same position at Ole Miss, Arkansas has interviewed and talked with several coaches, including Tommy Tuberville, Charlie Strong, Joker Phillips, Ron English, Tommy Bowden, Gus Malzahn, Jim Grobe, and Lane Kiffin among others.  I do not have an issue with the number of coaches that they have interviewed and talked with, because I want our school (I say “our” school because I am a fan) to find the best possible coach.  My issue has to do with the number of coaches who have either rejected us entirely or just showed a complete lack of interest.  Arkansas is not some 2nd tier school academically or athletically.  It is a school with well known former coaches and players, very successful teams of the past, yet we can’t bring a well known coach to the school now.  What seems to be the biggest issue with Arkansas?  In my opinion, it is the existence of John White and Frank Broyles in the administration.  Though Frank is leaving at the first of the year, he will still be very much involved with Arkansas athletics.  Coaches seem to be hesitant to come to a school where their most famous coach is still a very influential figure in the state and program.  Let the new coach have complete control of the operations.  Let the new coach make the big decisions.  I don’t want Arkansas to continue to be used as leverage by college coaches to get raises and extensions. It is embarrassing to the school and the program. Arkansas does have a storied tradition, but the administration and IRRATIONAL fans have kept quality football coaches from wanting to come and bring further success to the program. 

3. BCS – This could probably appear on the list every week, but since I haven’t had a chance to talk about it this year, I figure why not put it on the list now.  Since the Nebraska vs. Miami championship game, I have been in favor of some type of playoff system.  Most reasonable college football fans I know are, but instead of talking about something that will not be done in the immediate future, I’m going to talk about something that could’ve been done this year.  Sure I have a problem with Ohio State being in the national championship and LSU vaulting over 4 teams to the number 2 spot and Hawaii even being considered for a spot, but what bothers me the most is the fact that Kansas is in the BCS but Missouri is stuck in the Cotton Bowl.  I know the Cotton Bowl is something to be proud of, but with the kind of season that Missouri has had, why don’t they deserve to be in one of the big games?  Head to Head match up? Goes to Missouri - Division Championship?  Goes to Missouri.  What does Kansas have on Missouri besides one less loss?  Missouri lost twice to BCS bound OU, while beating BCS bound Illinois early in the season in a big non-conference game, while Kansas’s toughest game besides the Mizzou game was Texas A&M and Oklahoma St.  I know their non-conference schedule was “brutal” with Southeastern LA, Toledo, FIU, and Central Michigan, but what about the terrible conference schedule which didn’t include OU and Texas?  Georgia was rewarded with a BCS game even though they didn’t win their conference or division.  Illinois, the same thing. Why not Missouri?  Missouri went from being number 1, to losing to a top 5 OU team, to getting kicked out of the BCS party.  Just one more thing that is unfair about the BCS.


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Thursday Features

December 5, 2007 00:12 by Pigskin_Webb

1. Goat of the Week Nominees

2. Top 5 NFL and College Teams 


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Non-BCS bowls you don’t want to miss this year

December 5, 2007 00:07 by Pigskin_Webb

Chik-Fil-A Bowl –  Auburn vs. Clemson – These two coaches went from leading candidates for the Arkansas job, to getting long-term contract extensions.  This will be a battle of Clemson’s offense featuring Cullen Harper, James Davis, and C.J. Spiller vs. Will Muschamp’s Auburn defense, led by Quentin Groves.  If Auburn’s defense shows up against Clemson’s rushing offense like they did against Arkansas, it could be a long day for the Tigers.

 

Outback Bowl – Wisconsin vs. Tennessee – Tennessee is coming off a disappointing loss to LSU in the SEC Championship game and Wisconsin is coming off a disappointing season, where expectations were at an all time high.  With a preseason ranking in the top 5, Wisconsin’s defense proved to be their downfall in conference.  In their three losses, Wisconsin gave up an average of over 33 ppg while only scoring 16 ppg.  Look for Tennessee to run and run often with Arian Foster and force Tyler Donovan to beat them with the pass and keep P.J. Hill contained.

 

Cotton Bowl – Missouri vs. Arkansas – Which Heisman Trophy candidate will have the bigger day?  Chase Daniel has been superb all year and with Arkansas’s less than spectacular secondary, look for Missouri to score some points.  Darren McFadden and Felix Jones will look to be as effective as Patrick and Brown for Oklahoma were in the Big 12 Championship game, and with the success of the running game all year, I don’t foresee that to be an issue.

 

Gator Bowl – Virginia vs. Texas Tech – Virginia gives up 18.8 ppg while Texas Tech puts up 41.8 ppg.  So what gives here?  Chris Long will give Texas Tech fits all day, but the Red Raiders will surely utilize double teams to control him, if that’s even possible.  Graham Harrell will be looking for Crabtree and Amendola almost every play and since Virginia hasn’t played anyone with the type of high power offense that Texas Tech has, don’t be surprised if Texas Tech doesn’t reach close to their average in points.


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Les Miles and Michigan

December 4, 2007 23:16 by Pigskin_Webb

As most of you know by now, the source where I received the information regarding the LSU situation was wrong, way way wrong.  There is now way around it.  I trusted this source because of how close this person is to the LSU football program.  But I have no hard feelings.  I reported this information because of where we are located (Louisiana) and how big a story it was nationally.  I didn't report it because I hate the LSU football program and wanted to spread gossip.  As a matter of fact, I felt like every one of those circumstances would actually have been an upgrade to the program.  But when it comes down to it, I could truly careless about LSU football, but I will continue to be objective when I talk about them.  I thought this was some great information, it just happened to nearly all be wrong.  As me and Jarod continue to operate this website, we'll continue to give our opinions regarding college and professional football, as opposed to reporting on information him or I receive.  Thanks for visiting the site and please continue to give your opinions about what we talk about. 

 

Billie 


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Different Look at the BCS

December 4, 2007 13:31 by Pigskin_Stokes
This is a good article by a pro-footballreference.com

The BCS Bowl Selections came out yesterday, and like almost every other year, many people are unhappy. I’ve got lots of random thoughts, so I figured I’d just start collecting them here.

  • No one got a bad deal here. Yes, if you root for Georgia, Virginia Tech, Oklahoma or USC (we’ll get to Hawaii later), you are understandably disappointed today. On Sunday morning you thought your team might luck into the BCS Championship Game, and in the end LSU and OSU took those two spots. But all four schools lost two games each, and had multiple blemishes on their resumes. This is *not* 1998 Tulane, 2000 Florida State or Washington, 2001 Oregon or Colorado, 2003 USC, 2004 Auburn, Boise State or Utah, 2006 Michigan or Boise State. The ‘04 Tigers probably have the biggest complaint in BCS history, and no one this year has much to complain about. The argument boils down to “we weren’t lucky enough to be selected”, hardly a sympathetic complaint. Each team had more than enough chances to make the title game.
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  • The BCS has increased my interest in college football. Maybe it’s because I’m a math geek or maybe it’s because I like controversy, but discussing who the top two teams are is pretty fascinating. It’s probably not as fair as a playoff, but if it wasn’t for the BCS, we wouldn’t be talking college football this morning. Further, …
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  • If the BCS never came about, here’s what we’d be looking at:
      Rose Bowl: USC vs. OSU
      Sugar Bowl: LSU vs ???
      Orange Bowl: Oklahoma vs. ???
      Fiesta Bowl: ??? vs. ???
      Those ???s would be filled by at large teams, of course. Maybe we’d get Oklahoma against Georgia, LSU against Virginia Tech, and Hawaii facing Kansas. Who knows. But we wouldn’t be any closer to crowning a college football champion before the BCS came about.

 

After showing my pro-BCS stance, let me now get to my biggest pet peeve with the BCS and the polls. No one really knows how teams are supposed to be ranked. This bothers me and perplexes me more than just about anything in sports. How can we have polls where there’s no guidance on how to rank the teams? While most rankings are easy, on the edges you really need some guidance. The big question is the retrodictive vs. predictive distinction: we don’t know what the rankings are supposed to be. Are the polls supposed to be designed so that the team ranked X is always a favorite in a neutral site over the team ranked X+1? Should the polls reflect who has accomplished the most to date? Should they reflect who has looked the best to date? Should they reflect which team we subjectively think is the best team in the nation? I’ve got no idea, and frankly, it’s impossible to rank the teams in a meaningful way until you know what you’re ranking them on.

I read this article, you can go to  www.pro-footballreference.com to read the rest. 

Posted by Chase Stuart on Sunday, December 2, 2007

 


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This Weeks College Pick'em Games

November 29, 2007 09:54 by Pigskin_Webb

This weeks schedule of games is not near as strong as what we had last week, but there are some good matchups, highlighted by the conference championship games.

Game

Line Billie Jarod Result
Rutgers @ Louisville -2.5 Rutgers - L Louisville - W 41-38 Louisville
Army vs. Navy  -14  Navy - W
Navy - W
38-3 Navy
VA Tech @ Boston College  +4.5  VA Tech - W
Va Tech - W
30-16 VA Tech
Tennessee vs. LSU  -7  Tennessee - T
LSU  - T
21-14 LSU
Oregon @ Oregon St.  -1.5  Oregon St - W
Oregon St - W
38-31 Oregon State 
UCLA @ Southern Cal  -19  UCLA - W
UCLA - W
24-7 USC 
Pitt @ West Virginia  -28.5  West Virginia - L West Virgina L
13-9 Pitt 
Washington @ Hawaii  -13.5  Washington - W
 Hawaii - L
35-28 Hawaii 
Arizona @ Arizona St  -7  Arizona State - L
Arisona St - L
20-17 ASU 
Oklahoma vs. Missouri  +3  Oklahoma - W  Oklahoma - W 38-17 OU 

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